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SpaceX Starlink Alternative Router Hands-On Test Follow Up



Today is a SpaceX Starlink alternative router update. We’ve tested a bunch of dual-wan failover routers to replace the Starlink router so far: Netgate, TP-Link, UTT, TrendNet, Peplink, and now the Ubiquiti.

I give you my thoughts on the various routers and the new one I just got and more importantly, I want to hear yours!

If you’re interested in more information about the Ubiquiti router, here’s a link: https://amzn.to/3qC554s

Here’s my discount link to the VPN that I’m using with Starlink! Make sure you add “Static-IP” and “Port Forwarding”.

https://www.purevpn.com/order-now.php?aff=70214

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Highlighted Starlink Hardware I Have Tested In The Past:

Ubiquiti https://amzn.to/3qC554s
NetGate https://amzn.to/3cXiTTv
Peplink https://amzn.to/3OnTsHM
UTT Router https://amzn.to/3nJBLaL
TP-link Router #1 https://amzn.to/3IjkyhP
TP-link Router #2 https://amzn.to/3c8gOUq
TrendNET Router #1 https://amzn.to/3nVukx0
TrendNET Router #2 https://amzn.to/3IGxvm2
Tiny Battery Backup For Starlink – https://amzn.to/3tEqQCp
TP-link AC Router – https://amzn.to/3so07J1
TP-link AX Router – https://amzn.to/3sf2or8
TP-link Managed Switch: https://amzn.to/3EQJKZy
TP-link Unmanaged Switch: https://amzn.to/3FVbaih
TP-link Outdoor Access Point – https://amzn.to/3uqDYfP
TP-link Indoor Access Point – https://amzn.to/3rV6Nzk
TP-link Control Module (100Mbps) – https://amzn.to/3Lduaf3
TP-link Control Module (Gigabit) – https://amzn.to/3rVBqEx

For High-Speed Access Points (ex. Starlink or Cable)
TP-Link Control Module (Gigabit) – https://amzn.to/3rVBqEx
TP-Link AC1900 – https://amzn.to/3Q28y6N

For Slower Speed Access Points (ex. ATT)
TP-Link Control Module (100Mbps) – https://amzn.to/3Lduaf3
TP-Link AC1200 – https://amzn.to/3OLhlsK

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  1. Today is a SpaceX Starlink alternative router update. We've tested a bunch of dual-wan failover routers to replace the Starlink router so far: Netgate, TP-Link, UTT, TrendNet, Peplink, and now the Ubiquiti.

    I give you my thoughts on the various routers and the new one I just got and more importantly, I want to hear yours!

    If you're interested in more information about the Ubiquiti router, here's a link: https://amzn.to/3qC554s

    Here's my discount link to the VPN that I'm using with Starlink! Make sure you add "Static-IP" and "Port Forwarding".

    https://www.purevpn.com/order-now.php?aff=70214

    Thank you for supporting the channel!

    For business relations, contact me at πŸ“§ https://jcristina.com/contact

    For more Starlink coverage subscribe and watch my entire PlayList at: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUrdf7hvHC2KXLQg3HIi8keQOIdxcheS7

    I hope you find this helpful or at least entertaining.

    Highlighted Starlink Hardware I Have Tested In The Past:

    Ubiquiti https://amzn.to/3qC554s

    NetGate https://amzn.to/3cXiTTv

    Peplink https://amzn.to/3OnTsHM

    UTT Router https://amzn.to/3nJBLaL

    TP-link Router #1 https://amzn.to/3IjkyhP

    TP-link Router #2 https://amzn.to/3c8gOUq

    TrendNET Router #1 https://amzn.to/3nVukx0

    TrendNET Router #2 https://amzn.to/3IGxvm2

    Tiny Battery Backup For Starlink – https://amzn.to/3tEqQCp

    TP-link AC Router – https://amzn.to/3so07J1

    TP-link AX Router – https://amzn.to/3sf2or8

    TP-link Managed Switch: https://amzn.to/3EQJKZy

    TP-link Unmanaged Switch: https://amzn.to/3FVbaih

    TP-link Outdoor Access Point – https://amzn.to/3uqDYfP

    TP-link Indoor Access Point – https://amzn.to/3rV6Nzk

    TP-link Control Module (100Mbps) – https://amzn.to/3Lduaf3

    TP-link Control Module (Gigabit) – https://amzn.to/3rVBqEx

    For High-Speed Access Points (ex. Starlink or Cable)

    TP-Link Control Module (Gigabit) – https://amzn.to/3rVBqEx

    TP-Link AC1900 – https://amzn.to/3Q28y6N

    For Slower Speed Access Points (ex. ATT)

    TP-Link Control Module (100Mbps) – https://amzn.to/3Lduaf3

    TP-Link AC1200 – https://amzn.to/3OLhlsK

    Please continue adding to the conversation in the comments below. If you find this information of value, please consider supporting the channel by clicking the THANK YOU button or by becoming a member.

    πŸ’Ž I would love to hear your thoughts in the comment area below!

    If you would like to get a FREE copy of the Prologue to "How To Create A Digital Fort Knox – Backing Up Your Digital Life" or one of my other FREE books, simply visit https://jcristina.com/books

    Consider subscribing to the channel, commenting below, and signing up for my newsletter at https://jcristina.com/join

    Interested in any products that I personally use? Visit https://www.amazon.com/shop/jcristina or go to the bottom of this description for direct links.

    [ Channel Membership ]

    If you enjoy my content consider becoming a member by hitting the JOIN button below and becoming a member!

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    Check out my πŸ†“ FREE eBook over at https://jcristina.com/ebook

    [ Media Contact Business Relations ]

    πŸ“§ eMail – https://jcristina.com/contact

    [ Free Giveaways & Promos ]

    πŸ“¦ 20% Off everything https://jcristina.com – Subscribe & use Promo Code YT20

    πŸ†“ FREE eBook https://jcristina.com/ebook – 10 Tips To Making Tack Sharp Images

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  2. Thank you for another video. Still struggling with starlink connectivity frustrations for streaming. I enjoy your videos and watching them even if I’m not using the router you mention. Still contemplating the Wi-Fi booster though.

  3. Joseph. what I would like to know is what are you doing with all of the routers that did not make the grade? You must have a closet full by now, please let us know when you are going to have a garage sale, I could use a couple of spare routers.

  4. edgerouters are excellent IMO I really appreciate the config tree, most setting you don't have to go in there you can change load balancing and stuff by editing the interfaces but it's very nice option to go in and tweak without having to know CLI commands. I noticed you are on version 1 firmware path. Using version 2 I've never had an issue with it not failing back after the main comes back after a few minutes. I know there were stability/performance complains regarding v2 but I never experienced that myself.

  5. My brother used our Starlink in the RV while we were camping for several business conference calls ranging from 30-60 minutes and had zero dropouts or issues. Worked flawlessly.

  6. I’ve been using the UniFi Dream Machine SE with Starlink and AT&T Uverse (about 30Mbps_max) in a load balanced dual WAN. Finally. Love it. Specifically during work hours it’s very fast. And in the evenings when Starlink falls down DSL picks up enough.

  7. Thank you again for some great info! Side question: Is there a router that shows which devices are connected and also always you to set "times of use" for individual devices, or to disconnect certain devices, and to limit internet sites to certain devices? Thanks

  8. Test the Ubiquity Dream Machine Pro. I use it currently with Starlink and AT&T 4G. It fails over and back when Starlink comes back online. Very fast, full featured.

  9. I am currently using an ASUS RT-AX82U in Dual Wan mode. I have Starlink as my Primary and AT&T Direct Connect as my Secondary. The router changes from Primary to Secondary and back again. I have more problems with the frequency of outages than the duration.

  10. I barely drop out connection anymore even tho OBS studio will say my connection is dropping constantly. It has something to do with the tp link er605 i am using in combination with Nvidia graphics card using the Nvec codec in obs studio. On obs it says my connection is real bad, but i rewatch my video after and it just lowers framerate a bit. It seems to be functional, but no vs. multiplayer gaming yet, not any time soon. I would not do competitive gaming yet with starlink, it would drive me crazy, i tried.

  11. You could set up your own cloud host, and do VPN to that and do channel bonding, but that's a lot of pieces to get right. Peplink is definitely "off the shelf" for all of that, but $$$. (Also, Peplink has features that go beyond a DIY solution if you look at their marketing stuff.)

  12. Well to Bad Ubiquiti edge router didnt do what You need, but i have it as a multi wan with 2 wans ,wan 1 is starlink and wan 2 si Γ³ptical fiber, and it does come back to wan 1 when it starlink comes back after 3 seconds, i did the config only using the wizzard. No terminal. No problem.

    Just make sure that You install the latest firmware before You config.

    Or You can use an unifi router from Ubiquiti, has multi wan, and it has a modern UI.

  13. The only fail over connection I would ever recommend to people that have to have a rock solid connection would be Peplink. But that will come with a HUGE HUGE HUGE cost. So the hardware costs a few hundred bucks. (And you'd need to get one that supports Starlink's speed.) But you also need to pay Peplink for an ongoing subscription and PER GB fees that are quite large. Now, keep in mind you might be paying for cellular access with these fees. But if your youngins are "playing Starcraft" or whatever metaphor you previously used, it's going to suck to pay for their bandwidth too.

    Maybe the ultimate solution would be to use the Wifi from your Starlink router for normal activities and youngins to play video games. And then you'd have a Starlink ethernet kit connecting to your Peplink. Then, only run traffic through there when you need a rock solid connection, like for Zoom/video conferencing/etc. It might seem overly complicated, but this might be the only way to balance cost and reliability.

    I think the Peplink you've linked to that supports a 150Mbps is fine for any video conferencing needs you'd put through it. I've only ever used that much bandwidth if I am downloading huge files or something. (Even normal video streaming doesn't use that much.)

  14. Assuming you find a pep link that works, can you demonstrate how to set up the vpn software on the router with a static IP address please. I ordered that peplink router (before realizing the speed limitation) and will use it for now with starlink and att fixed wireless. I need a static IP address however for various streaming services. Thank you for all the videos.

  15. It must be nice to have a multi-WAN option.
    Starlink is my only option at this point after Verizon removed 3G in my neck of the woods (and close to no 4G reception). 5G is not in my future for sure.
    Guess I would have to go for another satelite based provider if I want a multi-WAN setup (and no…Hughesnet is not really acceptable either). OneWeb maybe some day!?. My eggs are all in the Starlink basket and hope the wrinkles will get ironed out soon.

  16. Easy, Mikrotik OS is unmatched for value and functionality. With the Winbox GUI, its within reach of the home enthusiast.

  17. I am out of the world where these load balance/swap over systems were my concern (15+ yrs). I was in network equipment procurement for resale for a major network provider. There was God (aka Cisco) and everyone else. In "certain corners" the second level tools did the job better than Cisco, but almost always we had to go with Cicso for our strong/complicated solutions. Does Cisco have any solutions for the user to meet your requirements? Probably too expensive, but curious…

  18. Hi Jay, try the Pepwave Balance 20x, I’m successfully using it. Unfortunately, it only has one wired wan port, the failover I use is a Verizon SIM card. It switches back automatically when Starlink is back online.

  19. So jumping back a bit in your videos, my POP has been Los Angeles since I set everything up and all of a sudden a couple days ago it changed to Dallas Texas? I haven't rebooted or factory reset, just all of a sudden switched. Just like you it switched to a POP that is further away than the original one I was connected to, I don't get it but as long as it's still working good I'm not going to complain. I only noticed because my speed tests started choosing servers in Dallas instead of LA.

  20. Joeseph… or does Joe work? I remembered I never got back to the full video on testing the pfSense box you tried. I see you had no luck with that either which didn't really follow my failover experience with pfSense. So, I just watched your pfSense router setup again and I think I found something. I don't know why it's under the "Advanced" tab under "Settings", but it appears you missed a KEY configuration. After you setup your gateways for failover, you MUST check the box under System/Advanced/Miscellaneous for "Enable Default Gateway Switching". Yep, it's out of the way, but it is necessary for failover to work properly. If you haven't already returned the 1100, try that.

  21. Great content Joseph, I too am ready to purchase the elusive efficient fail-over and fallback router! I'm testing an old ASUS N900 WiFi Router (RT-N66U) that I had laying around, it has the option for duel-WAN that supports Fail-over and Fall-Back as I type this. I will reply back of my results. πŸ˜‰

  22. Recently found you and do enjoy your work and detail. Regarding this presentation I got confused as you spoke of "Fail Over" … "Fall Back" … and/or "Fail Back". To me these are three different things. When A comes back up does it "FALL" back ? If B drops does if "FAIL" back to A ? Etc. I know you want it to "FALL" back to A once it was forced to B and A is back up. But it was hard to completely understand what you were saying now and then. Thank you

  23. Have you tried a commercial grade device? I use a Sonicwall TZ370 with WAN failover. I haven’t tested failover with Starlink but have with Comcast and Google Fiber. Typical switch over is ~2 seconds.

  24. Not that I have the knowledge to do it… But …. Why can't one of these router engineers simple write a routine that says to switch back to the original system?

  25. I have an ASUS ROG and use spectrum gig internet and THI as a back up and the router switches back and forth as it should might want to check it out.

  26. That interface is pretty clunky. I'm a big Ubiquiti user, but I use their Unifi line of equipment which is much more user friendly than the edge stuff. I have 4 of the UDM-Pro units in my office set up right now for client installs as I build the guest networks, users, apps, etc. The UDM-Pro does let you do failover, but it's 5 seconds or so to make it happen (and it does come back LOL).

    The standard UDM machine does also do failover, but only using the U-LTE ATT failover device, which isn't ideal.

    Both are likely higher than your budget for testing, but they are really good products.

  27. so, I enjoy your Starlink info- and at first when i saw this video, my first reaction, was " he just trashed TP Link and i spent some serious money on his suggestion".. then it DAWNED ON ME .. your QUEST is about finding a fast , trouble free router, that will switch to a secondary LAN, ..at the same time monitor the initial LAN, and switch back to right away when it is operational again seamless and with out telling it to. ..makes sense.. for the record we are enjoying our TP link and SL set up u recommended.. BUT HERE IS AN IDEA:
    YOU HAVE A HUGE FOLLOWING – Challenge them to write you a program- maybe reward them with something- I bet there must be a armature home base programmer out there, who can write you a program to make that happen , on one of the routers?.. ?? send out a challenge to one f those young smart kids.. and i bet, if they succeed..a few major companies would take notice too?.. just my idea.. use your reach to inspire and challenge them.. like Elon does to his followers.. i bet they would listen!! you do an awesome job..i bet it could work?.. send out a challenge.. see who bites.. cheers from Maine.. I learned this, as a leader of Marines, when faced with a difficult mission.. challenge those that will answer the call..
    after 20 yrs in the Marines.. my experience tells me it works..just find that thirsty programmer who needs the window of opportunity.. u have the followers and reach for it!